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Old 08-08-2012, 02:13 PM   #1
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is religion without spiritual freedom my true devil?
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:19 PM   #2
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Peace -

how would you explain what spiritual freedom is ?
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:16 PM   #3
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my spirit is in bondage to anything eye (mind) choses to believe and focus my creative energies on - doesnt matter what belief system.

this catholic thing is a spiritual bondage when you allow the brain to believe the doctrine and become captivated. The whip and noose is hell the slave master are both god and the devil in this.

If this were all based on a moral stand point where if the religion was realistic and used cause and effect and taught morals and virtues without the extreme violence we would be a different species.

The thing in the bible is a terrorist holding our souls for ransom
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it's all a serious problem to be solved -

like when our PCs break down and we try to locate the problem/problems

and out of frustration we punch a hole in the wall

only to find out later that it was something very simple and preventable causing the problem but by then we caused more problems while we were trying to solve the problem
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if life wasn't fucked up, would it be fun at all ?
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^your right - it's more interesting and a learning experience. Monotheism is just a stricter path that's impossible to follow and causes more to rebel and to be in conflict spiritually putting a dent in growth.

Pantheism imo seems more docile for the spirit as it teaches us that everything is a god experience in this universe. There is no hell there is no heaven we are already there - we come back and reincarnate - every time coming back spiritually stronger.

We have terrible things happen that are chaotic in many shapes in forms because the ultimate goal is love and reunion with our creator - whom represents the purest form of love and bliss.
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The scary thing is some soul matrix of thought might believe in a need for the ultimate form of chaos to change the current paradigm of hate and fear that currently has its grip on our planet...I hope we don't have to go through anything like that to change. These are the type of men who know it doesnt matter. We all come back anyhow...
Did Hitler change anything? Did Mao? Did Stalin? - some might ask

Its a terrible idea to ponder mass extinction event. But sometimes the slate has to be wiped clean and let's be honest. The shit going on is disturbing. We fucked up on many levels...degenerating and projecting hate, envy, fear.
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it's all a serious problem to be solved -

like when our PCs break down and we try to locate the problem/problems

and out of frustration we punch a hole in the wall

only to find out later that it was something very simple and preventable causing the problem but by then we caused more problems while we were trying to solve the problem

This why people smash their shit - throw in the garbage and upgrade to a newer faster more user friendly version.
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But mankind has had heaven's gate open for them the whole time. Each one of us individually has made conscious decisions to open that door or to close it in the Great Spirit's face ( eye ). Including myself until I recntly became re-awakened. I thank a few certain members of this forum for helping me heal spiritually. You know who you are.
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This why people smash their shit - throw in the garbage and upgrade to a newer faster more user friendly version.

how long will it stay new though ?

what goes around comes back around again

but wisdom erases karma





maybe in our future, the computers will be trying to fix us, get frustrated and throw us in the garbage for a newer better upgraded version.
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The scary thing is some soul matrix of thought might believe in a need for the ultimate form of chaos to change the current paradigm of hate and fear that currently has its grip on our planet...I hope we don't have to go through anything like that to change. These are the type of men who know it doesnt matter. We all come back anyhow...
Did Hitler change anything? Did Mao? Did Stalin? - some might ask

Its a terrible idea to ponder mass extinction event. But sometimes the slate has to be wiped clean and let's be honest. The shit going on is disturbing. We fucked up on many levels...degenerating and projecting hate, envy, fear.

friction,chaos, and explosions are needed to bring us into existence though

it'll never be all gravy for those who are not on the top -
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^your right - it's more interesting and a learning experience. Monotheism is just a stricter path that's impossible to follow and causes more to rebel and to be in conflict spiritually putting a dent in growth.

Pantheism imo seems more docile for the spirit as it teaches us that everything is a god experience in this universe. There is no hell there is no heaven we are already there - we come back and reincarnate - every time coming back spiritually stronger.

We have terrible things happen that are chaotic in many shapes in forms because the ultimate goal is love and reunion with our creator - whom represents the purest form of love and bliss.

the world of love that we speak of already exist and always existed -

some of us will get the keys to experience it

some will fall from it

some will see it from a distance

some will never know it exist


those of us who are experiencing a bad time here, bring the bad time into their existence by handling their time wrong.

we have hungers that ground us to this bad experience
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That was metaphorically speaking...

You can erase all the bullshit that the bible puts in your mind (HDD) and replace it with software that suites you to your journey and quest on this earth. It doesnt matter what you do. Living in a constant state of fear of burning in hell for eternity is a hellish existance - maybe how they blocked our chakras to keep us here as slaves?

The Bible software's original form has been infected by a virus...
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but if we are born into this, who would tell us of another way to think and exist ?
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the planet and cycles of things that come and go around it will tell us that there is a Grand Order of things that keep things in alignment. Humans - some are brought to this world in chaos ( hit in the womb, mothers on crack - speed - alcohol ) like Bane in batman is the same as Darth Bane in star wars. Bane's to the existence of humanity showing humanity - wow, we fucked up letting this happen.

Those who you say have fallen chose that path? Just as those who chose to see the prettiness in life because they can make right sound minded decisions from not being born into chaos chose that path? It's a matter of control and balance. Some though no matter how they try - are trapped in this chaos and humanity shuns them - pushes them away and creates monsters and watch the monstrosity grow and do nothing but be idle un-empathetic creatures - which in reality is a lot worse then the monsters themselves.

solitude and confinement does nothing but make it worse when a mind planted with a bad seed has no pure light to allow it to grow normally. Is that god in the bible righteous to allow us - who were once the truest of his angels go down that path?

No - because man wrote that book in fear of those with power above them to make people be obedient to those in power. Some things are relevant in that book dont get me wrong. but most of it will make some kill in its name...shun people who dont follow their way...judge...get delusions of grandeur. Paulism is the New Testament - the persecutor of Christians s now miraculously the servant of Jesus.
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