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Tectrus Moa · 08-26-2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

that's what i'm saying

but what do people really need ?

their attachments to what they think they need causes them/us allot of suffering

It's being human, Sunny. I don't need my smart phone but I want it because I can afford it. I really don't need my car but without it, people wouldn't like me all that much and it'd be hard to get around. Money makes the world go around.

LORD NOSE · 08-27-2012, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tectrus Moa

It's being human, Sunny. I don't need my smart phone but I want it because I can afford it. I really don't need my car but without it, people wouldn't like me all that much and it'd be hard to get around. Money makes the world go around.

if those are the things you NEED, then you'll suffer without them. it's that simple

INF · 08-27-2012, 02:49 PM

I was thinking about this while working last night and I was gonna come back here and say how all suffering is called for, but then I read T-moe say about AIDS/HIV and all that other jazz and I had to think twice about it but I still stand next to my original thought - all suffering is called for.

If Life (as a human being) is a Recipe , Suffering is a key ingredient.

Even though your life would be expiring with a deadly disease , your suffering could develop the growth of someone else's spirit. Tons of people have been moved by others 'tragic' life stories.

Watching someone else have something you desire could build a drive in you to achieve the item you were jealous over. You could suffer from envy until you break and then obtain the unobtainable. That's pretty solid right there.

how they say ? no pain no gain?

LORD NOSE · 08-27-2012, 02:56 PM

deep, cause i've been thinking about the same thing -

i was wondering what it would be like without suffering and if it would make us over all soft - then i thought about eternal life and eliminating the ways we die - there are allot of them - our death is due to us feeding our desires - perhaps with true knowledge of self and how we work as humans, the type of suffering we experience will become obsolete - and our suffering doesn't have to lead to pain and death - but instead we will lay down obstacles for the new to get over in order to become strong

INF · 08-27-2012, 06:45 PM

now , that's deep

LORD NOSE · 08-27-2012, 07:07 PM

how so ?

i see it as regular, normal - nothing deep about it - lol - every
one fuckin wiff me today -

LORD NOSE · 08-27-2012, 07:09 PM

need sleep

INF · 08-28-2012, 06:17 PM

yeah that was deep to me because you are talking about removing suffering from the Human condition , right? I'm thinking that we need suffering no matter what and then you said the thing about "but instead we will lay down obstacles for the new to get over in order to become strong"

that kind of sounds like creating suffering. I don't know , but , it was deep to me.

LORD NOSE · 08-28-2012, 07:28 PM

don't pay me no mind yo - i was on one last night

maybe suffering isn't needed, but struggle/friction is -

suffering exist when there is no help or love - we may struggle to do 500 push ups daily - we may suffer if we don't

INF · 08-28-2012, 07:34 PM

okay thats dope though. see , you have to suffer to struggle. That suffering will bring you to actually struggle and eventually succeed. ill formula.because , how many will automatically go for just the struggle? We are somehow born into the 'sin' of suffering , or whatever. Whenever the world was tricked and confused into different languages , we must have been implanted with some type of default suffering. How many ppl can see past the bullshit to skip the suffering for the struggle?

LORD NOSE · 08-28-2012, 07:40 PM

but we shouldn't have to suffer in order to fight/struggle to do better

that's like saying we need to get real sick in order for us to realize that we should take better care of our selves -

many won't just begin to take care of themselves

but like our parents/guardians made us do things that we didn't see as necessary

the same should be for us until the end of our dance - but we are free to be sick and twisted in this world and this freedom leads to suffering -

INF · 08-28-2012, 07:55 PM

i see ya now.thats whats up.

Tectrus Moa · 08-28-2012, 08:32 PM

A lot of people suffer while struggling but only a few succeed with their struggles. Some are mentally stronger than others while most can't find the strength to achieve their goals.

08-27-2012, 02:49 PM	#18
INF Digital @fterLife 666 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: laughin and relaxin Age: 33 Posts: 20,061 Rep Power: 104	I was thinking about this while working last night and I was gonna come back here and say how all suffering is called for, but then I read T-moe say about AIDS/HIV and all that other jazz and I had to think twice about it but I still stand next to my original thought - all suffering is called for. If Life (as a human being) is a Recipe , Suffering is a key ingredient. Even though your life would be expiring with a deadly disease , your suffering could develop the growth of someone else's spirit. Tons of people have been moved by others 'tragic' life stories. Watching someone else have something you desire could build a drive in you to achieve the item you were jealous over. You could suffer from envy until you break and then obtain the unobtainable. That's pretty solid right there. how they say ? no pain no gain? __________________ *The Digital @fterLife Bandcamp page* *http://www.reverbnation.com/theinf* *http://www.youtube.com/user/brix42* *@iLL_LAMBEER* *The INF on Facebook* http://soundcloud.com/thejesus42almighty

08-27-2012, 02:56 PM	#19
LORD NOSE The Smell of The Future Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Double Barreled Snot Gun Posts: 13,967 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 65	deep, cause i've been thinking about the same thing - i was wondering what it would be like without suffering and if it would make us over all soft - then i thought about eternal life and eliminating the ways we die - there are allot of them - our death is due to us feeding our desires - perhaps with true knowledge of self and how we work as humans, the type of suffering we experience will become obsolete - and our suffering doesn't have to lead to pain and death - but instead we will lay down obstacles for the new to get over in order to become strong __________________

08-27-2012, 06:45 PM	#20
INF Digital @fterLife 666 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: laughin and relaxin Age: 33 Posts: 20,061 Rep Power: 104	now , that's deep __________________ *The Digital @fterLife Bandcamp page* *http://www.reverbnation.com/theinf* *http://www.youtube.com/user/brix42* *@iLL_LAMBEER* *The INF on Facebook* http://soundcloud.com/thejesus42almighty

08-28-2012, 06:17 PM	#23
INF Digital @fterLife 666 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: laughin and relaxin Age: 33 Posts: 20,061 Rep Power: 104	yeah that was deep to me because you are talking about removing suffering from the Human condition , right? I'm thinking that we need suffering no matter what and then you said the thing about "but instead we will lay down obstacles for the new to get over in order to become strong" that kind of sounds like creating suffering. I don't know , but , it was deep to me. __________________ *The Digital @fterLife Bandcamp page* *http://www.reverbnation.com/theinf* *http://www.youtube.com/user/brix42* *@iLL_LAMBEER* *The INF on Facebook* http://soundcloud.com/thejesus42almighty

08-28-2012, 07:28 PM	#24
LORD NOSE The Smell of The Future Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Double Barreled Snot Gun Posts: 13,967 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 65	don't pay me no mind yo - i was on one last night maybe suffering isn't needed, but struggle/friction is - suffering exist when there is no help or love - we may struggle to do 500 push ups daily - we may suffer if we don't __________________

08-27-2012, 07:07 PM	#21
LORD NOSE The Smell of The Future Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Double Barreled Snot Gun Posts: 13,967 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 65	how so ? i see it as regular, normal - nothing deep about it - lol - every one fuckin wiff me today -

08-27-2012, 07:09 PM	#22
LORD NOSE The Smell of The Future Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Double Barreled Snot Gun Posts: 13,967 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 65	need sleep

08-28-2012, 07:34 PM	#25
INF Digital @fterLife 666 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: laughin and relaxin Age: 33 Posts: 20,061 Rep Power: 104	okay thats dope though. see , you have to suffer to struggle. That suffering will bring you to actually struggle and eventually succeed. ill formula.because , how many will automatically go for just the struggle? We are somehow born into the 'sin' of suffering , or whatever. Whenever the world was tricked and confused into different languages , we must have been implanted with some type of default suffering. How many ppl can see past the bullshit to skip the suffering for the struggle? __________________ *The Digital @fterLife Bandcamp page* *http://www.reverbnation.com/theinf* *http://www.youtube.com/user/brix42* *@iLL_LAMBEER* *The INF on Facebook* http://soundcloud.com/thejesus42almighty

08-28-2012, 07:40 PM	#26
LORD NOSE The Smell of The Future Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Double Barreled Snot Gun Posts: 13,967 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 65	but we shouldn't have to suffer in order to fight/struggle to do better that's like saying we need to get real sick in order for us to realize that we should take better care of our selves - many won't just begin to take care of themselves but like our parents/guardians made us do things that we didn't see as necessary the same should be for us until the end of our dance - but we are free to be sick and twisted in this world and this freedom leads to suffering -

08-28-2012, 07:55 PM	#27
INF Digital @fterLife 666 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: laughin and relaxin Age: 33 Posts: 20,061 Rep Power: 104	i see ya now.thats whats up. __________________ *The Digital @fterLife Bandcamp page* *http://www.reverbnation.com/theinf* *http://www.youtube.com/user/brix42* *@iLL_LAMBEER* *The INF on Facebook* http://soundcloud.com/thejesus42almighty

08-28-2012, 08:32 PM	#28
Tectrus Moa {-_-} Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 26 Posts: 7,989 Rep Power: 37	A lot of people suffer while struggling but only a few succeed with their struggles. Some are mentally stronger than others while most can't find the strength to achieve their goals.

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